OutLaw Folding Stock Adapter First Impressions

| March 24, 2014 | 7 Comments

The Law Tactical folding buffer tube adapter is essential if you plan on making your AR pistol or SBR as short and portable as possible. The adapter is very well made.

The “problem” with the Law Tactical folder is that it frequently sells out. For some, the $200 USD price tag is also a bit steep.

I discussed the price point in my prior article, but basically if you’re in the realm of NFA and NFA-style items then spending $200 on a hinge seems like a better to me than spending $200 on a piece of paper from the government.

Anyway, the world is full of items that are made by one company and then another company’s name is put on it. The firearms industry has many examples of this, such as AR lower and uppers, barrels, rails and optics.

I purchased a “Free shipping AR folding stock adapter” from a seller on eBay. I looked at the photos, and it was very similar in appearance to the real Law Tactical folder.

There were enough differences in the photo that I didn’t think I was buying an authentic Law Tactical adapter, but I figured it would be close enough to try.

I purchased the “OutLaw” folding stock adapter for $49.99 delivered to the USA from China.

If it sucked, I could tell you all not to buy it.

Unfortunately, that’s exactly what I’m here to do. Don’t buy the knockoffs.

I knew I was in trouble when the item arrived in a cardboard box that clearly stated FOR GBB AND AEG — two terms used to describe ways Airsoft guns fire. Nowhere in the eBay item description did it state that the folder was Airsoft only.

Will the real Law folder please stand up?

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If you weren’t already familiar with the Law Tactical folder, it would be hard to tell which one is real and which one is the knockoff.

Both say “Made in the USA” (although at least one is clearly not).

The warnings and markings are in the same places.

They are roughly the same shape.

The finish is different, but it’s hard to make a value judgment on which one is “nicer.” They’re just different.

The real Law Tactical folder is the top one. I think that the letters on the Chinese knockoff look better, and at first contact they feel about the same in quality.

If you never knew what a “real” Law Tactical folder was supposed to look like you might mistake the fake one for the real one. Be careful. The authentic hinge has “Law Tactical” on the side, but there’s nothing to keep the Chinese knockoff makers from adding something similar.

Real recognizes real

The Law Tactical folder has several attributes that make it a more robust product, but let’s start with what you can see in the picture:

  • The latch on the left part of the folder is bigger and thicker on the Law.
  • The Law’s folding hinge has two allen-head bolts, whereas the Chinese one just has a single bolt that holds the release button in place.
  • The Chinese OutLaw knock off has a shorter release button.
  • The real Law Tactical hinge has a QD mount, the knockoff has an old school sling swivel attachment point.
  • The latch itself (inside the right hand ring) is different, although I am not sure if the shape makes a difference or not. I never got to try my Chinese rip off for reasons I’ll get into in a minute.
  • The OutLaw clone has a flat top on the left side of the adapter.

There’s also a major difference in bolt carrier extensions:

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The Law Tactical bolt carrier group extension is in the front. The Chinese OutLaw adapter is in the back.

The real adapter has a flange (right hand side) that expands into the BCG via a bolt. It allows the BCG to make contact with the buffer and is necessary due to the added length of the folder.

The OutLaw’s adapter is not meant to attach to anything, it just sort of floats at the rear of a Gas Blow Back Airsoft AR and bumps into the buffer.

My plan was to buy a replacement BCG extension from Law Tactical ($22 before shipping), but I never got that far.

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The Law’s buffer retaining pin is on the left. The OutLaw copy’s pin is on the right.

This is when I knew I was fucked. The OutLaw pin is made out of crappy metal, is smaller in diameter, and has a shorter pin. It barely held the buffer in place, and I was worried about it coming loose during firing. I went so far as to rotate the buffer so that it’s fattest (widest?) part was pressing up against the thin, tiny retaining pin.

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The buffer retaining pin spring is also different. The Law is on top and is longer than the OutLaw.

Since the Law buffer retaining spring was bigger than the OutLaw’s it would be impossible to remedy this without drilling out some of the OutLaw’s material. I didn’t feel like doing this, but you might want to give it a try.

Measurable differences

The OutLaw and authentic Law adapters were similar in appearance, but once I started weighing and measuring things it was obvious the OutLaw was not the same.

Law Tactical OutLaw
Weight 5.2 ounces 4.4 ounces
Buffer retaining pin diameter 0.645″ 0.473″
Buffer retaining pin spring length 0.973″ 0.580″
Bolt carrier extension length 1.850″ 2.56″
Threaded flange 0.85″ 0.70″

 OutLaw tests: failed to start

I had this complicated testing protocol in mind to safely test the OutLaw. One shot, five shots, 30 shots, 100 round drill, each time removing the adapter to check for stress and breakage.

I never even loaded a round. It took just three runs of the bolt in my 300 Blackout pistol to break the OutLaw’s buffer retaining pin.

Derp.

Derp.

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Not worth your time or money — or your health

Despite all of this, you might think that you can modify the knock off and/or do something else to make this work.

You’ll have to widen the buffer retaining pin hole and use a standard pin and spring.

You will have to purchase a bolt carrier group extension from Law, adding at least $25 or so to your build.

Don’t do it.

You don’t want to monkey around with these knockoffs. The locking lug, latch, and blocking finger on the OutLaw knock offs are made of an unknown aluminum. According to well informed sources, the aluminum is NOT the grades of aluminum commonly used in the AR industry and is NOT safe to use in conjunction with real parts.

The OutLaw knockoff adapters have been known to shear or crack after repeated firings. Because the clone adapters are made out of unknown metal, it is unknown when they will fail under the stress of real firing. But they will fail.

We should all be firing a high round count in training. If you use a knockoff adapter and are training as much as you should, you’re just going to accelerate yourself towards a catastrophic and physically dangerous failure.

Don’t risk it.

You may buy the authentic Law Tactical adapter directly from Law or from Brownells. It seems like these places flip-flop stock status (Law Tactical is sold out again, Brownells has them in stock as of this writing) so if you don’t find it at the first site, try the next.

Law Tactical adapter: recommended.

OutLaw knockoff adapter: not recommended 

About the Author:

Short Barrel Shepherd Short Barrel Shepherd is a regular guy and works to make Web sites and mobile apps easier for people to use. He spends his free time attending fight-focused firearm, knife, and combatives training, motorcycling, writing, and playing games. His daily carry is a Glock 19 pistol and an AR15 .300 Blackout pistol in a backpack.
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7 Comments on "OutLaw Folding Stock Adapter First Impressions"

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  1. Charles Linder says:

    I’m certain that you will find that the latch loop on the swinging part of the outLaw is molded aluminum 0ne-piece, while the genuine article has a forged steel loop that is inserted/retained in the adapter somehow.
    I had contemplated using one of those outLaw P.o.S. on the lower dedicated to my .22 LR upper, but when I came across the alert on the LAW Tactical website that warned about counterfeited series one adapters I decided that this just wouldn’t be acceptable due to the shameless marking of the counterfeit as “made in usa” along with the expected shabby material / rip-off of American design/idea .
    Thanks for the expose’, but you might think again before giving ANY recommendation of utilizing the outLaw P.o.S. poorly counterfeited craptastic copy? airsoft junk on real steel FIREarms.
    Sorry about the post rife with attitude, but I hope that Law Tactical can shrug off the unfair competition and stay in business even though their product is priced outside the consideration of many of their potential customer base.

    • Short Barrel Shepherd Short Barrel Shepherd says:

      No offense taken!

    • Frank says:

      I have an authentic hinge I bought from Brownells so I know they work…just be careful if you put an A-2 buffer tube on them. I broke my hinge and had to wait forever for a replacement. It’s hard not to torque the hinge installing or removing the long buffer tube. Either use a collapsible or drill a spanner hole close to the threads if you want a fixed stock or UBR style…

      A friend bought an “outlaw” and found that the latch was indeed aluminum, as was the button…it functioned in his 300 AAC build but the more he folded it the more problems he had. He used the bolt extension that came with it…it was a press fit in the carrier he had but IDK if that’s true for all of them. Thanks for the review! Just thought I’d fill in where you and Charles left off…

  2. LAW TACTICAL says:

    ***DO NOT!!!! use the AIRSOFT FAKE COPY on a real firearm, INJURY AND DAMAGE to the firearm can occur !!!!!!***
    Author, please contact Law Tactical at our company number, 267-209-0529 ASAP regarding serious safety concerns presented in this article.

    ZACHARY LAW
    PRESIDENT
    LAW TACTICAL LLC

    • Short Barrel Shepherd Short Barrel Shepherd says:

      Please note that this article now has additional information about the dangers of using a knockoff / counterfeit / clone folding adapter, with particular reasons why it is unsafe to use these in whole or in part.

      Readers: don’t try the knockoff adapters at home! Save them for your Airsoft trainers (like I am).

  3. ShootinChris says:

    Just curious – what do you guys think about using the Outlaw on an AR type conversion that does not cycle a buffer- basically just using it for it’s folding function.
    Something like:
    – Mesa tactical mossberg adapter
    – Troy mcs m1a stock kit
    – mdt tac-21 remington 700 rail kit

    Thinking these would be pretty useful to add a folding stock too, and a more affordable way to do it.

    Obviously the law tac would be better- but at 5x the price, I just want a reasonable folding stock…

    • Jason John says:

      Would work just fine for light use,not every day assaults on the range,but general purpose and personal protection

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