Force on Force Training: 2-On-1 and an angry mob

| January 12, 2015 | 0 Comments

Last Saturday I attended a Force on Force training class hosted by QSI Training. The class focused on personal self defense scenarios modeled after actual crimes or incidents. Well, except for one where one of the students ran in and just bust up our simulated convenience store.

Anyway, it was by far the most enjoyable FoF class I’ve ever taken, and learned a lot. Not everything went my way, but I was proud of my progression as a student.

This particular scenario started as a two-on-one situation and escalated into an angry mob. I had to use some limited hand-to-hand techniques, my strong side knife, my pistol, and some crowd control and positioning to succeed.

The Drill

One or two actors jump a student as he enters a room. The student has to deal with that situation, and then handle a hostile crowd that gathers afterwards. Based on the direction of QSI head instructor Erik Pakieser, the crowd may or may not behave in a way that would warrant a legal self defense shooting.


Some students picked up on the brewing trouble faster than others. A habitual look over my shoulder gave me the split second to react; otherwise I think the drill would have been over before it started.

I moved laterally, not just directly backwards, with one arm fending off the closest attacker. I was herded into a corner (bad!) but by the time the second student had flanked me I had my right side knife out and was stabbing.

I hit the student in the gray sweatshirt five times before switching to the instructor on my left. I gave my fellow student a few more pokes at the end.

I did not know what the crowd intended to do, so I proceeded with my usual tape loop. I directed a specific person to call 911. When they did not comply, I issued the command again in case there was confusion.

When he ignored me a second time, I knew it was on. I started to make my escape.

I drew my pistol and kept it close to my body in the Sul position. I attempted to go to the side with the least number of people / threats, but the group was pretty spread out. I wound up having to split between two people. I was worried about them grabbing me as I approached the door (my back would be to everyone), so I went out a little sideways with my pistol pointed at two of the threats. Then I ran.


Force on force training helps you realize how quickly things can go terribly wrong. I had a split second I was in the middle of a blitz robbery scenario. It only took a few steps to be cornered — a place I really should not have been. On one hand being cornered is bad, as my escape options were limited. On the other, I didn’t want to have one guy behind me, and I also didn’t know if there were more attackers coming. What would you have done?

Also, would you have fired on any of the people in the crowd?

About the Author:

Short Barrel Shepherd Short Barrel Shepherd is a regular guy and works to make Web sites and mobile apps easier for people to use. He spends his free time attending fight-focused firearm, knife, and combatives training, motorcycling, writing, and playing games. His daily carry is a Glock 19 pistol and an AR15 .300 Blackout pistol in a backpack.

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