Las Vegas Metro Police Statement About June 08 Shooting

| June 25, 2014 | 2 Comments

On Monday, June 23, 2014 Las Vegas Metro Police Department Sheriff Doug Gillespie held a press conference on the shooting in Las Vegas that left two officers and a citizen with a CCW permit holder dead. The male and female murderers also died, but aside from the tactical details below they can go straight to hell and I won’t mention them by name.

More details about the encounter at Wal-Mart were revealed.

Of interest to us as armed citizens:

  • The statement does not indicate if CCW holder Mr. Joseph Wilcox attempted a verbal or physical challenge before being shot and killed by the female attacker. It does appear that Mr. Wilcox did not immediately engage the male. Without more details it is impossible to know if immediately shooting the male attacker would have given him time / opportunity to engage the female. This makes me rethink the use of verbal challenges for CCW holders.
  • Officer Brosnahan was the first responding officer at Wal-Mart. He entered alone, a situation that most of us may find ourselves in.
  • Officer Brosnahan encountered the female in an aisle. They exchanged shots. She fired “several shots” at him at “close range.” He hit her once in the shoulder, according to the statement she missed. Unfortunately the details about distance was left out, but I gathered from the statement that it was bad-breath distance. Most of us train at 21 feet or less (we are usually at 30 feet due to shooting steel) but you may want to pace an aisle the next time you are at Costco, Wal-Mart or Target. How long is it, and can you put a four-round burst on a torso at the longest point?
  • The female was hit in her upper right shoulder. It was not made clear, but given what we know about threat response and time spent in Force on Force training, we can assume that she was right handed. If a cop killer and murderer shot you in the right arm, would you be able to transition to your left and engage them?
  • Officer Brosnahan fell back after this encounter and gave information to the other responding officers.
  • A five person team of law enforcement professionals entered from the rear of the store. They were armed with rifles.
  • A 15 minute firefight between the two assailants and the law enforcement response team. The two murderers had barricaded themselves into a corner of the store. Had this been a citizen-only response, the best thing to do in this situation would be to escape from the attackers. The LEO had a job to do, which they did when:
  • One .223 round to the chest killed the male. Rifle rounds over handgun rounds.
  • The female murderer tapped out with a single shot to the head after the male attacker was hit by the rifle shot. While data indicates most “active shooters” will commit suicide after encountered any resistance, this shooter did so after it was clear the incident was “over.” Neither were expecting to leave alive. Bargaining / pleading is not the right tactic with this type of aggressor.
  • The attackers were armed with a revolver, a pistol grip pump shotgun, and the two semi automatic pistols held by the murdered police officers. It seems that most American active shooters are armed with rifles, so a shotgun and a revolver are odd choices for premeditated killers intent on “starting a revolution.”

Here’s the full statement (less than 10 minutes). What stands out to you, and what did you learn from this situation?

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  1. B R Kurtz B R Kurtz says:

    Deciding to involve ourselves (CCW or Off Duty LEO), in a lethal force situation involves many factors; not the least of which are if (non shooting) family members are present AND the ability to evade without contact. Assuming you are shopping alone OR have an active team mate along and could evade, then the next question is one of what would make you involve yourself(s). We’ve heard phrases like the incident “shocks the sensibilities”; but it may be as simple as you are just PISSED at seeing a Robbery or Serious Assault, or worse.

    Whatever the reason, the next issue is a 360 view competing hard with Tunnel Vision. Cops train NOT to Tunnel; but its hard even for us. The last civilian course I took emphasized it with “fun runs” when we forgot–we still forgot, or at least forgot to look CLOSE. If it happens in training right after a “fun run” to remind us, its a possibility it’ll happen when we’re staring at a smoking gun in the hands of a dirtball and a puddle of blood rapidly expanding from a body on the ground.

    I cant find any faults with the civilian getting involved (he paid a huge price for any). My only wish is that there would have been more like him present to back him up.

    Best

  2. skylinesystemsllc says:

    I believe the concealed carry permit holder is a hero. I carry daily and hope I could respond as he did. I saddens me that the speaker at the press conference didn’t see fit to commend the man for his bravery and determination to put a stop to the murderers. Political correctness ruled at the media event.

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