Update on the Raven Concealment ModuLoader Pocket Shield by Chris Fry

| February 23, 2017 | 3 Comments

I’ve been using the Raven Concealment ModuLoader Pocket Shield mounting system designed by Chris Fry (MDTS) for almost a year now. For quite some time I just carried the mid-sized TDI KA-BAR knife on it. About a month ago I added a custom made Kydex sheath made by Hawaiian Punch Industries for my ASP Key Defender OC spray.

This is an update on the Pocket Shield, as well as my current thoughts on the pros and cons of adding a second self defense tool to the setup. If you are unfamiliar with the PocketShield, you may want to read my review first.

Prior State

I kept my ASP Key Defender in the same pocket as my PocketShield / TDI knife. As you can imagine, the cannister moved around in my pocket throughout the day. It was still better than nothing, as the knife was always in a reliable position / orientation, but I knew this was not ideal.

I was able to successfully deploy the TDI knife from the PocketShield several times in force on force training scenarios, and at the Shivworks ECQC class I attended in June of 2016.

If you intend on using the PocketShield with just one tool on it, I recommend that you practice with it so you can get comfortable with the draw and settle on where you mount your tool. A little angle or height may make a huge difference.

I also strongly recommend a very vigorous drawstroke. The PocketShield stays inside the pocket when you perform a quick, decisive draw. The PocketShield had a much greater chance of coming out of my pocket when I drew slowly.

I have had limited success accessing the TDI during a clinch. This is due to my posture (knees slightly to very bent, ass out, pushing into or around an opponent) and not due to the PocketShield design. Exertion in the lower legs also collapses pocket openings and makes it hard for hands to go into. I encourage you to try this at home with your training partners, especially if you have to put your hand all the way into your pocket to access a tool.

Recent State

Thanks to my friends at Hawaiian Punch Industries, I was able to get a Kydex holder made for my OC spray. It’s simple, and bolted right up to the PocketShield.

I moved my TDI knife to the right side of the PocketShield. This has been a mixed bag, and I may continue to experiment with this.

I put the knife on the right so that it would be more accessible in case of emergency. I consider OC spray to be a longer-distance jab, and should be in my hand before an encounter starts. The knife is a better choice if someone surprises me, or is highly motivated.

The side benefit to having the spray on the left is that it is very helpful at anchoring the PocketShield. Since going with this set up I have never had the PocketShield leave my pocket while drawing the knife.

When I have drawn the OC spray during force on force training, it was well before any incident occurred. This happened a lot during low-light force on force training. I had to navigate dimly lit hallways, and true to “real life” I put the OC spray in my hand the moment I left an area with direct lighting. I had plenty of time to slowly ease the spray out of its holster and pocket.

I’ve drawn the OC spray quickly during practice, just to see what would happen. It comes clear of the PocketShield without a hitch. This is helpful for those of you who may want to use the Key Defender as an impact weapon. I know our friend John from Active Self Protection uses his Key Defender as a kubota.

Future State

The only downside to my current setup is that sometimes the TDI’s handle is visible when I wear Carhartt work pants and look straight down into my pocket. There’s something about the angle of the pockets. I do not have this problem with my Wrangler work pants.

I might be able to remedy this by mounting the knife one row lower on the PocketShield, but then I give up some accessibility.

Similar to checking for printing while carrying appendix, the angles at which we perceive our tools are not likely the same angles others see us. It’s probably a bigger deal to me than it really is, because no one is going to stand on my shoulders and look straight down into my pocket.

At least, not until ECQC this summer 😉

 

About the Author:

Short Barrel Shepherd Short Barrel Shepherd is a regular guy and works to make Web sites and mobile apps easier for people to use. He spends his free time attending fight-focused firearm, knife, and combatives training, motorcycling, writing, and playing games. His daily carry is a Glock 19 pistol and an AR15 .300 Blackout pistol in a backpack.
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3 Comments on "Update on the Raven Concealment ModuLoader Pocket Shield by Chris Fry"

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  1. Gregg says:

    Do you have this set up in your right-hand pocket? Is this your dominate hand? If so, have you experimented with this in your non-dominate hand pocket? What were the results? Thanks in advance.

    • Short Barrel Shepherd Short Barrel Shepherd says:

      Hi there! It’s in my right-hand front pocket, which is my dominant hand.

      I have a Clinch Pick on my body midline, handle pointed to the left, so that it’s more easily accessible to my off-hand.

      The Clinch Pick is my “primary” knife, can be drawn by either hand, and is my first choice in an entangled fight. The TDI in my right pocket is much more difficult to get when I’m rolling around on the ground, in a standing clinch, etc.

      If I have to use my off-hand to access a tool, I’d rather it be an easily accessible one like the Clinch Pick.

      Thank you for asking your question, please let me know if you have more or if I didn’t answer your question completely.

  2. Ekkehard Drechsler says:

    Do you have any contact information for Hawaiian Punch Industries? I have searched far and wide but I can not seem to find any information on them. All of my Google searches either bring me back to your website or are quotes taken directly from your website.

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